SCHMETZ Serger Needles

SCHMETZ Serger NeedlesConsult your owner’s manual!  Many new sergers use home sewing needle system 130/705 H (flat shank with a scarf). SCHMETZ Stretch, Jersey, Topstitch and Universal are popular needle choices. Some older sergers use needle systems BLX1 and DCX1.

SCHMETZ Overlock Needles

ELx705, ELx705CF and ELx705CF SUK are popular serger needle systems. Check your owner’s manual! Here’s how these needles are different from home sewing needles (130/705 H):

  • Serger needles have a groove on the front and back sides of the blade to reduce skipped stitches.  The second long groove is necessary to create chain stitches like overlock or coverlock stitches.
  • ELx705, ELx705CF and ELx705CF SUK have increased strength due to a reinforced blade leading to less needle breakage and straighter stitches.
  • ELx705 and ELx705CF have a slightly rounded point for universal use.
  • ELx705CF SUK has a medium ball point suitable for many knit fabrics.
  • ELx705CF and ELx705CF SUK have a Chrome Finish (CF), increasing wear resistance.

Check your owner’s manual!  SCHMETZ ELx705, ELx705CF and ELx705CF SUK are used on overlock or coverlock machines.

 

 

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  1. I have a Brother 3550 cv double cover stitch machine. The manual says to use 130/705 needles. However, I get skipped stitches and I have to rip the stitching out. I have also tried 130/705 stretch needles with less skipping, but I know there should not be any skipped stitches. Someone in a Brother group suggested using ELx705 needles because she does and does not get any skipped stitches. If I use ELx 705 needles, Do I take the risk of damaging my machine?, Do you recommend this? Do you have any other suggestions I can try? Thank you.

    • SCHMETZneedles says:

      The manual for your machine recommends a 130/705H in size 90 or 130/705 H SUK in size 90. Usually, especially with cover stitch machines, the thinner the needle the higher the risk for skipped stitches. You don’t mention what size needle you were using. Did you use a thinner needle, e.g. size 80/12 or 70/10? If so, you should replace it with a size 90/14.

      SCHMETZ does not recommend to use any other needle types than those recommended by the machine manufacturer, because the machine settings are adjusted accordingly. However, the ELx705 needles have a reinforced blade which makes the needles more stable compared to a 130/705 H of the same size. Additionally, the ELx705 has a second long groove which allows less thread tension. The other basic measurements are the same. Please click on the following links for more details:

      https://www.schmetzneedles.com/pdf/10_SCHMETZ_0314_Overlock_ELx705%20CF_ELx705%20SUK%20CF_GB.pdf

      https://www.schmetzneedles.com/pdf/1_SCHMETZ_Comparison%20of%20main%20characteristics%20household%20and%20Overlock%20needles_GB_04_2018.pdf

      • Thank you for your quick response with the useful links. I used the needles that came with the machine- Universal 130/705 size 14. I had skipped stitches on knits, so I tried 130/705 size 14 stretch. It was better but still skipped stitches every now and then. With a top coverstitch, it is quite noticeable. I will try the 130/705 SUK size 14. I hope that will end the skipped stitching. Thanks again.

  2. Riel D Burrows says:

    Hi my hobbylock 794 says to use blx1 needles but here in Canada having a hard time finding them. Will the elx705 work in place of the blx1? I need it for knits .. I need an alternative lol.

    • SCHMETZneedles says:

      No. ELX705 will not work. I checked with one of the SCHMETZ technicians to see if there is any other needle that can be substituted. Here is his response,

      “The only similar needle is the DBXK5 KK; however, the scarf is a bit shorter.
      This needle is made in sizes from NM65 to NM90, and made in Regular point (R) up to size NM90, in SES up to size NM80, and SUK up to size up to NM90.”

  3. What Schmetz needle would I order for Janome Mylock 534D – 4 thread over locker PLEASE.

  4. Joanne says:

    Is a top stitching needle that will accommodate decorative threads available in the ELx705 line? I have an Elna 945 and a Babylock Evolve and I’d like to use them more for embellishing.

  5. Jenny Coleman says:

    I have Elna 745 overlocker ..primarily use stretch fabrics ..having trouble finding ELx705 SYSTEM CF needles.
    What other Schmetz needles can I use in theis model overlocker .Thanks in Advance forhelp

  6. Carol Gagen says:

    Where can I buy EL x 705 suk needles in Ontario Canada? Dealers have no idea where to get them.

    • Valerie Mercer says:

      Hi Carolyn, did you have any luck with the SCHMETZ needles?? I’m in Newfoundland trying to get them as well with no success. How much did they cost. I’m so frustrated because I cannot use my serger!!

    • SCHMETZneedles says:

      Have your local dealer contact one of our Canadian Distributors:

      H. A. Kidd & Company Ltd.
      5 Northline Road
      Toronto, Ontario
      Canada M4B 3P2
      (800) 361-1669

      N. Jefferson Ltd.
      3188 Thunderbird Crescent
      Burnaby, BC
      Canada V5A 3G4
      (800) 355-4644

  7. Are any Schmetz needles tha I can use for a serger that needs JLX2 needles?

    • SCHMETZneedles says:

      There is no substitute for JLX2 needles. According to one of the SCHMETZ technician’s, needle system JLX2 is made specifically for specific JUKI sewing machines. JLX2 needles have a longer Scarf and a longer point. JLX2 is a special order needle. Please send an email to orders@schmetzneedles.com for pricing and availability.

  8. Are all three of your elx needles ok for machines that say elx? Sorry if that seems obvious. I don’t want to order (from Canada) and have the wrong needle. My machines says ELX SUK.

    • SCHMETZneedles says:

      Checked with our sewing educator. She says that, yes, you should be able to use a regular ELX needle . . . but, she suggests testing on a piece of fabric. The difference between a regular ELX needle and an ELX SUK is that the regular ELX needle has a slightly rounded point while the ELX SUK has a medium ball point.

  9. Durenda Pake says:

    Will the DCX1 work for my Pfaff hobbylock HL-603A which my old needle package references Organ needles DCX1 size 11 14 and are just a touch over 1-1/4″ long

  10. I should specify that it is for seaming and coverstitch on a husky lock s21.

    • SCHMETZneedles says:

      The ELx705 SUK CF has a medium ball point which is especially suitable for knit fabrics. Usually, size 80/12 works well.

  11. Hi, which needle would you suggest for an interlock knit? The universal ELX 305 is not working out too well.

  12. Gloria Vodan says:

    I have always used Schmertz needles in my Viking Designer SE. I just purchased a Husky Lock s25 and the manual suggests only Inspira EL 705 needles. Are the Schmertz EL 705 the same as those?

    • SCHMETZneedles says:

      Yes. SCHMETZ® ELX705 needles are the same (but better). No other brand matches the quality of SCHMETZ®.

      • Lisa Curt says:

        I also have a Huskylock S25. Will the ELx705 CF SUK be appropriate for knits on this machine? The manual does not address ballpoint needles / knits.

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